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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:28 am 
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man, you're mean dude... for 2 pseudo damage you could ease up a bit about 4 items that are completely unworthy until you have have ALL FOUR of a set. They are sub par until you've got 4 of them, and then they are only 2 pseudo damage better... I'll stay on the band wagon!



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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I think this thread/contents are worth a sticky

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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:47 am 
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and then they are only 2 pseudo damage better

Along with that "only" you also get:
Only 30 extra spellhit ("only" 1 point that you can move from shadow focus)
And only 50 extra mp5 i5sr (mp5 bonus from "only" 4 BT/MH tier6 items)
And only 40 extra stamina
And only 76 extra intellect

Edit. Actually T5 4pc is 2.45 pdmg worse than SS+FSW combo.

Lol at this only... Especially if you already have this "only" and decided to abandon it (as OP writes), or you can easily get it in 1 SSC/TK run, and pay 0 dkp for it... For those who cba to read the previous page check maths here: http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8383 ... tedhc5.jpg



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:42 am 
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Battlemaid wrote:
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and then they are only 2 pseudo damage better

Along with that "only" you also get:
Only 96 extra spirit ("only" 10.5 pseudodmg with Imp. DS)
And only 30 extra spellhit ("only" 1 point that you can move from shadow focus)
And only 50 extra mp5 i5sr (mp5 bonus from "only" 4 BT/MH tier6 items)
And only 40 extra stamina
And only 76 extra intellect

Lol at this only... Especially if you already have this "only" and decided to abandon it (as OP writes), or you can easily get it in 1 SSC/TK run, and pay 0 dkp for it... For those who cba to read the previous page check maths here: http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8383 ... tedhc5.jpg

The stat increases are calculated into the pseudo damage no? But I do agree with you that having had all 4 and then gotten rid of them is a bit silly, I still think there was a bit of over excited response.



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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I apologize in advance is this is a question that is out of line.

When the calculations for FSW/SS were done it only incorporate 2/3 FSW, leaving out the boots. Is this because of the 4 piece bonus of T5?


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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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This is because u can wear FSW boots with t5.



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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Thank you. :)


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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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Okay, I need everyone to please check out version 2 of this resource. I've completely redone it to be interactive so that you can create a much more customized version that suits what you are trying to do:

Shadow Priest: http://rickosborne.org/wow/sp-gear/
Holy Priest: http://rickosborne.org/wow/hp-gear/

I've tested it in Safari and Firefox, but not in Internet Explorer. Any and all feedback is appreciated, constructive or not. If enough people like it, I'll edit the original post and use this version instead.

Printing ... is problematical in some cases. If some CSS guru would like to come along and point out exactly what is making Safar barf all over itself, I'd appreciate that, too.


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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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RickO wrote:


Very nice, good job. I didn't try out the various menu options, I'll get in deeper when I'm at home.



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:27 am 
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From http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9844

Helm:

Hood of the Avatar - Lady Vashj, Serpentshrine Cavern
-- 55+36*0.055(1.98)+24*0.11(2.64)+16+14.75=90.37/97.17(4piece) + 24 Hit(32.74)=123.11/129.91(4piece)
Spellstrike Hood - Crafted, Tailoring BoE(Required for set bonus)
-- 46+24/5.57(4.31)+12*0.055(0.66)+36=86.97/95.32(2piece) + 16 Hit(21.82)=108.79/117.14(2piece)

Shoulders:

Wings of the Avatar - Void Reaver, Tempest Keep
-- 41+17/5.57(3.05)+24*0.055(1.32)+24*0.11(2.64)+24=72.01/78.81(4piece)
Frozen Shadoweave Shoulders - Crafted, Tailoring BoP
-- 50+15*0.055(0.83)+24= 74.83

Chest:

Shroud of the Avatar - Kael'thas Sunstrider, Tempest Keep
-- 55+35*0.055(1.93)+20*0.11(2.2)+36=95.61/102.41(4piece) + 19 Hit(25.92)=121.53/128.33(4piece)
Frozen Shadoweave Robe - Crafted, Tailoring BoP
-- 72+20*0.055(1.1)+24=97.1

Legs:

Leggings of the Avatar - Fathom-Lord Karathress, Serpentshrine Cavern
-- 54+18/5.57(3.23)+36*0.62(1.98)+26*0.11(2.86)+13=75.07/81.87(4piece) + 25 Hit(30.01)=105.08/111.88(2piece)
Spellstrike Pants - Crafted, Tailoring BoE(Required for set bonus)
-- 46+26/5.57(4.67)+8*0.055(0.44)+36=87.11/95.46(2piece) + 22 Hit(30.01)=117.12/125.47(2piece)

without hit T5 4PC = 360.26
with hit T5 4PC = 448.93
without hit SS/FSW = 362.71
with hit SS/FSW = 414.54


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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:13 am 
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Honestly there's no need to redo the maths when it's already done, and presented in quite clear and validatable form. Here's the answer to what's better: T5 4pc or FSW/SS. It was posted on the very first page of this topic, but it seems it needs a repost: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14953

Edit. Btw above post's maths is wrong.



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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Battlemaid wrote:
Honestly there's no need to redo the maths when it's already done, and presented in quite clear and validatable form. Here's the answer to what's better: T5 4pc or FSW/SS. It was posted on the very first page of this topic, but it seems it needs a repost: http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14953

Edit. Btw above post's maths is wrong.


Not sure about Math just copy from Sticky one.


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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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masterweapon37 wrote:
Battlemaid wrote:
Honestly there's no need to redo the maths when it's already done, and presented in quite clear and validatable form. Here's the answer to what's better: T5 4pc or FSW/SS. It was posted on the very first page of this topic, but it seems it needs a repost: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14953

Edit. Btw above post's maths is wrong.


Not sure about Math just copy from Sticky one.


without hit T5 4PC = 360.26
with hit T5 4PC = 448.93
without hit SS/FSW = 362.71
with hit SS/FSW = 414.54

This can't be since non-hit difference is -2 and t5 has 30 more spellhit, i.e. at least 39 more pdmg, i.e. at least 37 more in total.



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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
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Battlemaid wrote:
masterweapon37 wrote:
Battlemaid wrote:
Honestly there's no need to redo the maths when it's already done, and presented in quite clear and validatable form. Here's the answer to what's better: T5 4pc or FSW/SS. It was posted on the very first page of this topic, but it seems it needs a repost: http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14953

Edit. Btw above post's maths is wrong.


Not sure about Math just copy from Sticky one.


without hit T5 4PC = 360.26
with hit T5 4PC = 448.93
without hit SS/FSW = 362.71
with hit SS/FSW = 414.54

This can't be since non-hit difference is -2 and t5 has 30 more spellhit, i.e. at least 39 more pdmg, i.e. at least 37 more in total.



without hit T5 4PC = 97.17 + 78.81 + 102.41 + 81.87 = 360.26
with hit T5 4PC = 129.91 + 78.81 + 128.33 + 111.88 = 448.93
without hit SS/FSW = 95.32 + 74.83 + 97.1 + 95.46 = 362.71
with hit SS/FSW = 117.14 + 74.83 + 97.1 + 125.47 = 414.54

From http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9844


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 Post subject: Re: How long will my crafted gear last me?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:36 am 
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I know that you copied numbers from BRGA. Then BRGA is wrong. Atm I'm cba to find out where the error is.



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